Coronavirus Myth-busting: Separating Fact from Fiction | Connecting Point | March 25, 2020

Coronavirus Myth-busting: Separating Fact from Fiction | Connecting Point | March 25, 2020


>>>THE CORONAVIRUS HAS BEEN MET
WITH A SERIES OF PURPORTED HELP. AT-HOME TESTS AND EVEN CURES FOR
COVID-19 HAVE FOUND THEIR WAY FROM ONE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT TO
ANOTHER. WHAT’S TRUE AND WHAT’S NOT? WE SEPARATE FACT FROM FICTION
WITH ANDREW LOVER, U. MASS AMHERST ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF
EPIDEMIOLOGY.>>CERTAINLY THE RAPID
PROGRESSION OF CASES GLOBALLY AND IN THE U.S. IS VERY
CONCERNING FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC HEALTH CAMPAIGNS RIGHT
NOW.>>AS YOU’RE WATCHING THOSE
NUMBERS, ARE YOU COMPARING THEM TO PREVIOUS EITHER EPIDEMICS OR
PANDEMICS? I THINK BACK FROM 2003 TO 2014,
WE HAD MERS, SARS, H1N1. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF VERY
SIGNIFICANT HEALTH PROBLEMS OVER THE COURSE OF THAT DECADE. ARE YOU COMPARING, CONTRASTING? HOW IS IT WORKING?>>CERTAINLY. BOTH OF THOSE. THE MERS HAS BEEN FAIRLY
ISOLATED AND SARS WAS ABLE TO BE CONTROLLED FAIRLY WELL IN A FEW
MONTHS. AND THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT
MAGNITUDE. WE’VE GONE FROM LITERALLY A HAS
BEENFUL OF CASES IN CENTRAL CHINA IN EARLY JANUARY TO AT
LEAST 400,000 CASES JUST SINCE THEN. SO THIS IS A MAJOR, MAJOR
PANDEMIC.>>I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ON
MANY PEOPLE’S MINDS IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN SLOW OR STOP
THIS IN THE FORM OF A CURE. I’VE HEARD SOME REPORTING
RECENTLY THAT A COMBINATION OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND
ZITHROMICIN COULD BE USED TO TREAT AND CURE COVID-19. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS
AN APPROACH?>>RIGHT NOW THERE’S REALLY NOT
ENOUGH DATA TO SAY IF IT’S EFFECTIVE OR NOT. THERE’S A VERY SMALL TRIAL RUN
IN FRANCE THAT HAD SOME PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION, AND
SO THERE’S A BIT OF HIS TANSY ABOUT THOSE —
HIS TANSY ABOUT THOSE RESULTS. BUT THEY ARE COORDINATING A
LARGE SET OF CLINICAL TRIALS TO GET GOOD DATA AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE.>>SO IT’S MORE OF A WAIT AND
SEE AS FAR AS YOU’RE CONCERNED IN TERMS OF CURE OR TREATMENT?>>CORRECT, YES.>>AS PEOPLE ARE HEARING
INFORMATION LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CURE, THIS IS A SURE
FIRE CURE OUT OF FRANCE, WHERE WOULD YOU DIRECT PEOPLE TO BE
PAYING ATTENTION TO FOR SOLID RELIABLE FACT BASED INFORMATION?>>DEFINITELY THE C.D.C. WEBSITE, AND THEN THE MASS
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF PUTTING
EASILY AND A HALF — NAVIGATABLE INFORMATION OUT.>>AS YOU’VE BEEN OBSERVING
COVID-19 AND AS YOU POINTED OUT THE RAPID SPREAD OF IT, WE’VE
SEEN STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS STEPPING UP TO SAY THESE THINGS,
WE’RE GOING TO TAKE THESE MEASURES TO PRESERVE PUBLIC
HEALTH, CLOSINGS, ET CETERA. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
RESPONSE IS A BIT SLOWER. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF
THOSE OTHER DISEASE PROBLEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED, IS IT TYPICAL
THAT LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS TAKE ACTION BEFORE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT? OR IS THAT A DIVERGENCE FROM
WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE?>>USUALLY NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS
ARE MORE LIKELY TO SET MAJOR POLICIES. BUT BECAUSE THIS EPIDEMIC SO FAR
IN THE U.S. HAS BEEN VERY REGIONALLY BASED, WASHINGTON AND
SEATTLE HAVE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF CASES, AS WELL AS CALIFORNIA
AND NEW YORK, THOSE STATES HAVE DECIDED THAT THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE TAKING MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCES SOONER. BUT ALL OF THESE SOCIAL
DISTANCING AND OTHER OPTIONS HAVE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT SOCIAL
AND ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL IMPACTS. SO THOSE HAVE TO BE WEIGHED
AGAINST THE PURE PUBLIC HEALTH.>>FOR YOU, OBVIOUSLY YOUR
INTEREST IS IN PUBLIC HEALTH. HOW DO YOU THINK THE RESPONSE
HAS BEEN FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE?>>IT’S DEFINITELY, THE ROLLOUT
OF THE TEST WAS A BIT SLOWER THAN WE HAD ALL HOPED. AND THEN THE TESTING RATES IN
MOST STATES HAVE BEEN KIND OF UNDER WHAT WE WOULD HOPE FOR. BUT I THINK ALMOST ALL OF THOSE
PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN SOLVED PRETTY WELL, AND THAT’S THE FIRST MAJOR
STEP TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT TOWNS AND CITIES HAVE THE MOST CASE
BURDENS.>>IN REGARD TO THAT TESTING,
THAT AJUSTMENT HAS BEEN MADE, AND OBVIOUSLY HINDSIGHT IS
ALWAYS 2020. SO IT’S JUST DRAWING BASELINES
AND COMPARISONS FOR PEOPLE. FOR YOU, AS YOU LOOK BACK ON
OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH EPIDEMICS OR PANDEMICS, ARE THERE BEST CASE
PRACTICES THAT WE COULD BE DRAWING FROM THE MAST TO HELP US
TODAY?>>IT’S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE
BECAUSE EVERY EPIDEMIC IS DIFFERENT. AND THE REALLY CHALLENGING THING
ABOUT THIS EPIDEMIC IS WITH REALLY HAVE VERY LITTLE DATA. WITH INFLUENZA WE HAVE DECADES
AND DECADES OF GOOD EXPERIENCE, IN TERMS OF HOW TO PLAN CARE IN
HOSPITALS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY LEVEL CONTROL
MEASURES. BUT WITH COVID-19 IT’S ALL BRAND
NEW. SO WE’RE USING THE DATA FROM
JUST A FEW MONTHS REALLY TO TRY AND PLAN, SO THAT’S PART OF THE
REASON THAT IT’S BEEN MORE CHALLENGING THAN OTHERWISE.>>FROM PLANNING PERSPECTIVE,
I’LL HAVE US PIVOT AND TALK ABOUT SOME MYTH BUSTING PERHAPS. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW THINGS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA I’D LOVE TO HAVE YOU ADDRESS, BECAUSE THEY’VE
SHOWN UP IN MY FEED SO MANY TIMES. SO ONE, LET ME START WITH,
WHAT’S THE BIGGEST MYTH THAT YOU’VE HEARD REPORTED?>>THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION IF YOU CAN HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR 10 SECONDS OR SOME
OTHER TIME PERIOD THEN YOU DON’T HAVE COVID-19, AND THAT’S VERY
DEFINITELY NOT THE CASE. THERE’S REALLY NO SIMPLE HOME
BASED TEST AVAILABLE.>>WHICH IF IT WERE WOULD HAVE
BEEN GREAT NEWS. THANKS FOR ADDRESSING THAT ONE,
BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THAT QUITE OFTEN. AND ANOTHER THAT I’VE SEEN IN
THAT THREAD IS PURPORTED FROM JAPANESE PEOPLE, JAPANESE
DOCTORS WHO TREATED COVID-19 AND THEY SUGGEST DRINKING LIQUID
FREQUENTLY BECAUSE THE THEORY IS THAT THAT FLUSHES THE VIRUS DOWN
INTO YOUR STOMACH, AND STOMACH ACID CAN ERADICATE THE VIRUS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?>>UNFORTUNATELY THAT’S ALSO NOT
THE CASE. SURELY STAYING HYDRATED IS
IMPORTANT, IF YOU’RE RUNNING A FEVER. SO, BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY
IMPACTING THE VIRUS ITSELF, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL.>>AND THE THIRD PIECE I’VE SEEN
MANY MANY TIMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS ATTRIBUTED TO DEAN COONS, THE
AUTHOR WHO HAD WRITTEN ABOUT WUHAN 400, THIS CONCEPT IN A
BOOK THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED, SO THE IDEA THAT HE
EITHER PREDICTED THIS OR HAS POINTED TO THE FACT THAT WE CAN
SEE MORE AND MORE OF THESE TIMES OF HEALTH PROBLEMS COMING FROM
THIS AREA OF CHINA. IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION THAT
THAT’S TRUE?>>CERTAINLY BOTH THE FIRST SARS
VIRUS AND THIS NEW VIRUS ARE FROM BATS. AND SO THE MORE INTERACTION
PEOPLE HAVE WITH BATS AND OTHER WILDLIFE, THE MORE LIKELY THIS
SORT OF THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I THINK A LOT OF COUNTRIES
ARE TAKING AGGRESSIVE STEPS TO CURTAIL WILDLIFE IN MARKETS,
WHICH SHOULD CERTAINLY HAVE AN IMPACT.>>IS IT FAIR TO SAY IT’S UNFAIR
TO POINT TO ONE AREA AS THE PROBLEM AREA?>>YES. IT’S A GLOBAL PROBLEM CERTAINLY.>>I THINK THE LAST PIECE,
THERE’S A CONCEPT OF THIS IDEA THAT HERD IMMUNITY COULD BE
SOMETHING THAT COULD ADDRESS COVID-19, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT
HERD IMMUNITY IS AND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THAT?>>CERTAINLY. HERD IMMUNITY IS WHEN A GIVEN
NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN A POPULATION HAS HAD THE DISEASE AND
RECOVERED. AND THEN THEY CAN’T TRANSMIT. SO IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE
PEOPLE BUFFERING EVERYONE ELSE, TRANSMISSION JUST NATURALLY
STOPS. THIS IS HOW ALL OF THE STANDARD
CHILDHOOD VACCINES WORK. WITH COVID-19, WE REALLY HAVE NO
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT KIND OF IMMUNITY YOU’LL HAVE AFTER
HAVING THE INFECTION. SO IT’S POSSIBLE THAT HERD
IMMUNITY WILL BE IMPORTANT, BUT WE SIMPLY DON’T KNOW. AND WE WON’T KNOW FOR QUITE SOME
TIME.>>IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT WOULD
YOU SUGGEST TO PEOPLE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE, AS THEY’RE
LISTENING AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES, HOW WOULD YOU
DIRECT THEIR FOCUS?>>THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO
DO IS FOLLOW YOUR STATE STAY AT HOME GUIDANCE. AND THAT REALLY CUTS DOWN ON THE
NUMBER OF TIMES ANYONE INTERACTS WITH ANYONE ELSE, WHICH IS WHEN
TRANSMISSION IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN. AND THE KEY THING THERE IS IT
PROTECTS EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT’S THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONE. AND THEN DEFINITELY TRYING TO
AVOID HOARDING ANY FACE MASKS, BECAUSE HOSPITAL WORKERS AND
FIRST RESPONDERS ARE GOING TO DESPERATELY NEED THOSE. AND THEN DEFINITELY FOLLOW
C.D.C. AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH WEBSITES FOR BEST
INFORMATION.

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